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  Lying to children

  by jwfacts in

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  zac's first tooth just fell out, and so people are telling him that the tooth fairy will come with money.

  zac asked me if the tooth fairy is real.

  i am at a loss as to what to say.

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  paranoia agent

  cult classic: psychological studies have said the exact opposite, what are you basing that on?
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

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  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  OK, so what biblical scripture are you basing on your interpretation that the Abraham passage was not literal?

  Also do you consider that the killings conducted by the army of Moses and others was also not literal?
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  Lying to children

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  zac's first tooth just fell out, and so people are telling him that the tooth fairy will come with money.

  zac asked me if the tooth fairy is real.

  i am at a loss as to what to say.

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  paranoia agent

  LisaRose : They have childhood and continue to do so regardless of this.
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  paranoia agent

  Right, so you disagree with the biblical passage that god asked Abraham to kill his son as a sine for obedience?
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  The distinction between cult and religion.....

  by NoRegrets in

  1. watchtower
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  another great article from the ted talks.

  opening quote really tells it all: "the distinction between cult and religion lies squarely in how those leaving or those wanting to leave are treated.

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eliyahu-federman/when-organized-religion-become_b_3996139.html?ir=ted+weekends&ref=topbar.

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  paranoia agent

  Religion: Walk in, Walk out.

  Cult: Works required to walk in and stay in, repercussions to walk out.
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  Lying to children

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  zac's first tooth just fell out, and so people are telling him that the tooth fairy will come with money.

  zac asked me if the tooth fairy is real.

  i am at a loss as to what to say.

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  paranoia agent

  It's commercialised propaganda just like christmas, kids mind would be a lot more expanded if spoken to in an adult manner.
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  paranoia agent

  Right but I never asked that if god needed a dead boy, or if god could do it himself, what I asked was if god asked you to kill your own son would you do it?
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  paranoia agent

  I asked: If god asked you to kill your son would you do it?

  Seraphim23 replied: No I wouldn’t

  Then you are not a theist
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  paranoia agent

  snare&racket: wrote Theory in science has a very different meaning, anyone saying differently is either lying or ignorant to the truth, a scientific theory is a body of evidence,. just think, if a hypothesis like atomic theory or evolution wasn't true you wouldn't have ANY evidence for it, or to put it another way it is impossible to have evidence for evolution if it didn't happen.

  adamah: wrote: Theories explain facts (i.e. confirmed observations), but they aren't facts themselves. Even "facts"are subject to change.

  ‘In the most basic sense, a scientific fact is an objective and verifiable observation, in contrast with a hypothesis or theory, which is intended to explain or interpret facts.’ -^ Gower, Barry (1997). Scientific Method: A Historical and Philosophical Introduction. Routledge. ISBN 0-415-12282-1. –

  Right so let me alter the question, are scrientific theories prone to changes?
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  Musings about different types of atheist!

  by Seraphim23 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a thought that occurs to me is that if one has the belief that all that is real is only explicable in terms of particles and forces, and that nothing exists that is not one of these, then good and bad doesnt exist either, the same would be true for any concept for that matter.

  or perhaps it is only true when reduced to the level of matter and forces, but without the moral force, meaning and purpose that such a materialist only description would entail.

  after all, if death is forever, which is materialist view, then what does it matter if a seventy or seven year old enters the grave?

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  paranoia agent

  Seraphim23 : If god asked you to kill your son would you do it?